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[Michael Lynskey]

It's apparently an unauthorised film about John in his youth to be released Winter 2011. There's currently a search on for the main roles, all the names have been altered slightly too. The name of the film is, of course, Going Inside.
Wonder if it's actually going to happen?

Link here

[xarabas]

Link pls

[Michael Lynskey]

The link I have in the post above is the only thing I've seen about it, it is unofficial after all. Hopefully we'll hear more about it

[Iva]

I have actually posted this on the site two days ago, then upon having received a reply from the maker, I changed my mind and moved it back to drafts.

In short, this is mostly the author's vision of what they think John's life was like at the times, a fictional film. It is not going to be authorised from what I understood as the other party is not enthusiastic about it.

If anyone wants to give help or participate, feel free to do so; but according to my moral and other obligations, I cannot promote it on the site.

My apologies to the author as well and I hope she'll find what she's looking for, career-wise.

[ezionretaw]

kinda lame to be honest. checked this chick out. not impressed.

[TehSorso]

ezionretaw, on 13 November 2010 - 06:56 AM, said:

kinda lame to be honest. checked this chick out. not impressed.

I wouldn't say it's lame. They're just fans that try to express their love for John. Nothing wrong with that, as long he didn't explicitly disapprove of the project.

[orangevarld]

TehSorso, on 13 November 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

They're just fans that try to express their love for John.

And maybe this is not just love for John but the will to create a great piece of art like many films based on true stories. I don't expect anything from that, but it could be very good.

[Iva]

There are always two versions of the story: one that gets published and the one that really is true.

And there are always two types of people: those who would accept anything and those who would accept something the person in question would be comfortable with.

The first ultimately leads to the person in question not being comfortable with anything anymore and that makes me somewhat sad.

[ezionretaw]

these are all just opinions. end result will speak for itself if it happens.

[anachronism]

Very magnanimous of Frusciante to let her portray him as she likes as long as she admits she's not making a documentary, she's just putting her vision out there. It'll certainly be interesting to watch, all I know about his life are snippets from posts here and there by you guys.

(I mean, I'm never going to meet him, I'm not his friend or anything, and I don't affect his life, so it doesn't really hurt him if I get the wrong impression about his life. I don't feel the need to research him and have the right perspective or have no perspective, 'cause it doesn't change how I listen to his music, doesn't change how I play his music; all it'd change is how I treat him, and that's only an issue if I actually hang out with the guy.)

[irondethpepper]

Meh. Call me close-minded but I don't like the idea.

[meadero]

any date to realese?
beside 2011?

any date to realese?
beside 2011??

[usuallyjustat]

Hi all,

Im new to this forum, so hello.
I've been lurking for a bit, been a Frusciante solo/chilis fan for around 12 years, i own all Johns solo albums.
I was a big fan of River Phoenix and discovered Johns solo work by happy default while searching out 'Height Down'.

I mention the Phoenix bit because my being a fan of him is what has made me deeply concerned about this script this by this writer. Let me explain;

The writer of this project turned up on a River Phoenix forum around six months ago claiming she had written a really great script based on Phoenix's life. She claimed she had worked on it for over a year and had been a fan of his for over a decade. To proove her fandom she had linked two very off, windows-movie-maker 'trailers' for her project which were childish and dire to be honest.
So fans requested to see her script. She linked it and we all had a read. The piece was a shallow and one dimentional in its representation of the characters and the dialogue consisted purely of quotes taken by said characters from old magazine articals. The writer clearly had no concept of the cultural times in which she has set her piece and no real knowledge of the real life character and experiences of the people she was attempting to write.
Good.

One outstanding fact was that she had completey disregarded any musical elements from a biography based on a guy who lived and breathed music and had numerous close friends who did the same. She claimed this was 'not important' in the telling of Phoenix's story. Great.

Previously, another script by another writer had been being linked around- this script contained a number of scenes depicting the relationship Phoenix shared with Frusciante. Which, by all accounts, was one of the defining relationships in his life.
When questioned why she had not included Frusciante at all in hers, August proclaimed she did not think he was important enough to be included. What then insued was a debate between her and the Phoenix fans in which she displayed that she had ABSOLUTELY NO knowledge on John Frusciante whatsoever. Not his music. Not his past. Not his relationship with Phoenix and DEFINATELY in no way enough knowledge to be let loose with a screenplay less than a year later.

The way she is punting this project left right and centre worries me. For starters, it doesnt help that i believe she is a lazy and poor writer (as demonstrated in her Phoenix project) but the main thing that bothers me is that she appears to have written this piece through her obsession with Phoenix and her want to write him for the screen. Since her Phoenix project was drawing no attention and she read some pretty compelling John and River scenes by the other writer she appears to now believe she is entitled to write John and throw Phoenix into the mix. Bluntly put; i believe she is using John to do a take on Phoenix. Amongst others deceased parties she appears to have an obsession with; she left a very nice letter addressed directly to Kurt Cobain on over 15 IMDB forums a few months ago for no apparent reason other than she is a bit deranged.

As a Frusciante fan i find it appauling that this woman feels she is entitled to write him for the screen considering six months ago she had no interest either in him or his music. He was, as she put it, 'not important'. This is why her claim that it will be about 'the music' made me literally laugh out loud before i got seriously angry as hell.
I dread how the dialogue is going to pan out.
I strongly urge any fans to boycott this project. I hope John does read it and puts the breaks on it.
Having said all of this; she is casting via myspace.. so maybe we all have nothing to worry about?

[rek]

TehSorso, on 13 November 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

I wouldn't say it's lame. They're just fans that try to express their love for John. Nothing wrong with that, as long he didn't explicitly disapprove of the project.

August E. Thomas is not a fan of John Frusciante. Well, if she is it's definitely very new.

I visit the same forum the poster above me does. I wish they had a message archive or something. If they saved all the messages I'd send you the link to the thread in which August E. Thomas wrote that John wasn't important and that she didn't know anything about him.

Great for her if she's since then changed her mind about him. I highly doubt it though. Either way, the fact that she didn't know anything about him 8 months ago pretty much tells me it's impossible for her to have written a great script about his life.

[TehSorso]

rekathedooriya, on 01 December 2010 - 01:24 PM, said:

TehSorso, on 13 November 2010 - 05:42 PM, said:

I wouldn't say it's lame. They're just fans that try to express their love for John. Nothing wrong with that, as long he didn't explicitly disapprove of the project.

August E. Thomas is not a fan of John Frusciante. Well, if she is it's definitely very new.

I visit the same forum the poster above me does. I wish they had a message archive or something. If they saved all the messages I'd send you the link to the thread in which August E. Thomas wrote that John wasn't important and that she didn't know anything about him.

Great for her if she's since then changed her mind about him. I highly doubt it though. Either way, the fact that she didn't know anything about him 8 months ago pretty much tells me it's impossible for her to have written a great script about his life.

8 months is some time. I guess she might have changed her opinion about him, as i don't think she does it just for the money - after all, Frusciante is not that popular a figure among 95 percent of the movie consumers.

I still consider the project ok, i don't know the script but a movie won't hurt anyone, even if it comes out poor as hell. Definitely wouldn't boycott it.

[rek]

TehSorso, on 01 December 2010 - 04:35 PM, said:

8 months is some time. I guess she might have changed her opinion about him, as i don't think she does it just for the money - after all, Frusciante is not that popular a figure among 95 percent of the movie consumers.

I still consider the project ok, i don't know the script but a movie won't hurt anyone, even if it comes out poor as hell. Definitely wouldn't boycott it.

Exactly. You don't know the script. I don't know the script either, but I know the script she wrote about River Phoenix's life. It was horrendous to say the least. Also, there seems to be a lot of inconsistencies in the things she say to people.

8 months is some time. However, it's far from enough time to get enough knowledge about John, learn how to write (and not just steal all dialogue from old articles) and write an entire script.
Plus making sure that all proof of the other script disappear.

Edit: D'oh, I of course meant 9 months.

[rek]

August quote: John was very curt and cold and even went as far as saying that he didn't owe anyone anything -- even the conversation he was having regarding it, where he also stated that he only helps out his friends, somewhat reducing the project to a music review that he 'doesn't read'."

Another August quote: "John also stated the he has no intention of reading the script but I have every right to do what I want with the film — he won’t stand in the way. He was very sweet about it, but I want to clarify that he provided no material."



I also found these quotes on her Myspace:

"A year ago I had no idea who John Frusciante was."

"The way this film came about is quite interesting. I was actually doing research for a biopic based on the life of late actor River Phoenix last August (2009) and during my extensive reading I kept coming across this name, John Frusciante, that I wasn't familiar with. My curiosity was stemmed once I realized what a large part of the last years of River's life this person was... That I began digging a bit deeper. Moved beyond belief by what I learned of John's struggles, I was literally propelled into the creation of this film, "Going Inside," and have since abandoned the River project."

Here's how it actually went down. First of all change August 2009 to February of this year. It was not during her research for the River biopic that she found out how deep the friendship between John and River was. It was during her self-promoting the biopic on a River Phoenix forum. As mentioned before she was complaining that she couldn't get permission to go on with the project. Some of the members of the forum read her script (including me) and told her they wondered why John had such a little part in her script. She wrote back saying John wasn't important. The members then told her 'what a large part of the last years of River's life John was'. Seeing her doing this after telling her that and knowing how poor her River script was... It doesn't feel good.

She makes it sound like she abandoned the River project because it really wasn't that important but back then she talked about it as though it was HER LIFE. Pretty much the way she talks about the John script now except she had been working on the River script for years. Considering how poor that was despite having worked on it for at least a year I do fear for this new project. It is my belief that she abandoned the River script because she realized it was impossible to get permission to go on with it. Not because she was propelled into the creation of the John movie, but maybe rather because she realized she could still tell River's story by hiding behind John's name. The chances that camp Phoenix finds out about this project in time is smaller than if it was a movie about River. It sucks.

[mcgraftrock]

why dont we get over it. one, we have no idea what the truth of the project is, we arent her... two, we are all john fans and would hate to see his name/image slandered or portrayed in an incorrect light, but we have no control over this...if this were to do with someone else, what do you think john would do? spend all his time spreading gossip, rumors, and hear-say around the internet or get on with his life and wait for whatever is gonna happen to happen???!!!