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[nom_nom]

Hey,

I have a Fender Stratocaster Squier in Sunburst, and I'm thinking of buying a new Sunburst Stratocaster some time soon. I'm thinking of perhaps a mexican road worn, but is a normal mexican better value for money?

Thanks for any advice, really enjoying the forum btw

Jacob

Edited by Iva, 11 November 2010 - 12:54 AM.
Please, no yelling in topic titles. :)

[bobthecow]

nom_nom, on 10 November 2010 - 10:11 PM, said:

Hey,

I have a Fender Stratocaster Squier in Sunburst, and I'm thinking of buying a new Sunburst Stratocaster some time soon. I'm thinking of perhaps a mexican road worn, but is a normal mexican better value for money?

Thanks for any advice, really enjoying the forum btw

Jacob

The road worn is a terrible value. It costs nearly 1000 dollars, the wear on them doesn't look right, and all the parts look way to rusted. I can understand "road worn" but these things usually look like the metal parts were left out in the rain for months on end. In short... the normal mexican strat is a much better value. Make sure you play every single one at your local store, because honestly every single strat sounds different.

If you want to spend $1000, i would suggest: 2 mexican strats, a used american strat, a japanese reissue strat(damn good guitars), or having someone custom build you a relic guitar for about the same price.

[nom_nom]

bobthecow, on 11 November 2010 - 06:35 AM, said:

nom_nom, on 10 November 2010 - 10:11 PM, said:

Hey,

I have a Fender Stratocaster Squier in Sunburst, and I'm thinking of buying a new Sunburst Stratocaster some time soon. I'm thinking of perhaps a mexican road worn, but is a normal mexican better value for money?

Thanks for any advice, really enjoying the forum btw

Jacob

The road worn is a terrible value. It costs nearly 1000 dollars, the wear on them doesn't look right, and all the parts look way to rusted. I can understand "road worn" but these things usually look like the metal parts were left out in the rain for months on end. In short... the normal mexican strat is a much better value. Make sure you play every single one at your local store, because honestly every single strat sounds different.

If you want to spend $1000, i would suggest: 2 mexican strats, a used american strat, a japanese reissue strat(damn good guitars), or having someone custom build you a relic guitar for about the same price.

You see, you don't get this advice on any other site!!! Thanks so much for the info man

[houseman]

nom_nom, on 10 November 2010 - 10:11 PM, said:

Hey,

I have a Fender Stratocaster Squier in Sunburst, and I'm thinking of buying a new Sunburst Stratocaster some time soon. I'm thinking of perhaps a mexican road worn, but is a normal mexican better value for money?

Thanks for any advice, really enjoying the forum btw

Jacob

If you're looking for a guitar with vintage sound just as JF, try a Fender 60s classic player strat. It has got a 2 point tremolo and handwired custom 69 pickups. It's the best strat that i've ever played under 1000$. But you should really go to a guitar shop, trying a few guitars out and then decide which one you like best.

[nom_nom]

houseman, on 11 November 2010 - 08:56 PM, said:

nom_nom, on 10 November 2010 - 10:11 PM, said:

Hey,

I have a Fender Stratocaster Squier in Sunburst, and I'm thinking of buying a new Sunburst Stratocaster some time soon. I'm thinking of perhaps a mexican road worn, but is a normal mexican better value for money?

Thanks for any advice, really enjoying the forum btw

Jacob

If you're looking for a guitar with vintage sound just as JF, try a Fender 60s classic player strat. It has got a 2 point tremolo and handwired custom 69 pickups. It's the best strat that i've ever played under 1000$. But you should really go to a guitar shop, trying a few guitars out and then decide which one you like best.

Again, thanks for the advice. I love the style of those, just have to get my cash together now haha

[micromnml]

I'd recommend an American standard or 60's Classic player if you can afford it. Otherwise look in the used market for USA and Japanese made strats. The Mexicans are alright if you're on a budget, but you could pick up a nice used American for the same or less.

Was comaparing Strats in Allans music shop yesterday.
The American made strats just sound sweeter (especially the pickups, feel and playing response) and are easier to play compared the Made In Mexico models. The USA made Strats are just put together so well. Saying this, I've played some mexicans that feel nicer than some Americans.

Play as many different Strats as you can (USA and Mexican). They ALL vary in feel and sound, however this may be hard for a novice to determine.

Make sure you have a nice amp to compliment it too!

[bobthecow]

Yeah, the japanese re-issues are amazing for the price.

[nom_nom]

micromnml, on 13 November 2010 - 05:22 AM, said:

I'd recommend an American standard or 60's Classic player if you can afford it. Otherwise look in the used market for USA and Japanese made strats. The Mexicans are alright if you're on a budget, but you could pick up a nice used American for the same or less.

Was comaparing Strats in Allans music shop yesterday.
The American made strats just sound sweeter (especially the pickups, feel and playing response) and are easier to play compared the Made In Mexico models. The USA made Strats are just put together so well. Saying this, I've played some mexicans that feel nicer than some Americans.

Play as many different Strats as you can (USA and Mexican). They ALL vary in feel and sound, however this may be hard for a novice to determine.

Make sure you have a nice amp to compliment it too!

I go to up to Denmark Street in London, where the Rolling Stones recorded there first album, and there's this guy who's fanatical about Frusciante; it wouldn't surprise me if he's on this forum ! He lets me play whatever guitar I want through a massive Marshall or Orange amp, as long as I keep the Frusciante topics going haha. I'll try your advice next week when I go again, and I'll have to cut the talking down a bit

bobthecow, on 13 November 2010 - 07:35 AM, said:

Yeah, the japanese re-issues are amazing for the price.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for some Jap's as well

[ryanliamg]

I just feel like i should recommend Rocketfireguitars.com for their good custom relic work (and guitar building) and authentic vintage-sounding pickups.

I should also recommend Kinman pickups for authentic vintage noiseless (single coil) pickups.

But someday, you'll be dreaming of a "raincloud" guitar. (mine)

[nom_nom]

ryanliamg, on 13 November 2010 - 02:01 PM, said:

I just feel like i should recommend Rocketfireguitars.com for their good custom relic work (and guitar building) and authentic vintage-sounding pickups.

I should also recommend Kinman pickups for authentic vintage noiseless (single coil) pickups.

But someday, you'll be dreaming of a "raincloud" guitar. (mine)

Wow, I didn't know people could make guitars to their EXACT specifications; thanks for the links

[SwedishFruscianteFan]

The classic player series is great. I have a 50's in sunburst, maple neck. I love it to death, sounds amazing. The neck is a soft V so it's a little different then "the usual" neck but I really like it.

[ryanliamg]

I just feel like i should recommend Rocketfireguitars.com for their good custom relic work (and guitar building) and authentic vintage-sounding pickups.

I should also recommend Kinman pickups for authentic vintage noiseless (single coil) pickups.

[nom_nom]

SwedishFruscianteFan, on 13 November 2010 - 04:17 PM, said:

The classic player series is great. I have a 50's in sunburst, maple neck. I love it to death, sounds amazing. The neck is a soft V so it's a little different then "the usual" neck but I really like it.

Yeah I think I'll be getting a Classic Player 60's Strat, just because I love the rosewood neck like John's The only thing that's bugging me is the 2 point tremolo, I prefer the 6 point tremolos; I don't know whether to swap my tremolo or just stick some screw heads onto the tremolo block!!! haha

What do you guys think?

Jacob

[houseman]

nom_nom, on 20 November 2010 - 04:22 PM, said:

Yeah I think I'll be getting a Classic Player 60's Strat, just because I love the rosewood neck like John's The only thing that's bugging me is the 2 point tremolo, I prefer the 6 point tremolos; I don't know whether to swap my tremolo or just stick some screw heads onto the tremolo block!!! haha

What do you guys think?

Jacob

I think to have a 2 point tremolo is the best thing you can have. The guitar stays nearly forever in tune, even after dive bombs,I tried it. these tremolos avoid friction because of only 2 screws instead of 6. with 6 you have much more friction and detuning.

[nom_nom]

houseman, on 20 November 2010 - 05:51 PM, said:

nom_nom, on 20 November 2010 - 04:22 PM, said:

Yeah I think I'll be getting a Classic Player 60's Strat, just because I love the rosewood neck like John's The only thing that's bugging me is the 2 point tremolo, I prefer the 6 point tremolos; I don't know whether to swap my tremolo or just stick some screw heads onto the tremolo block!!! haha

What do you guys think?

Jacob

I think to have a 2 point tremolo is the best thing you can have. The guitar stays nearly forever in tune, even after dive bombs,I tried it. these tremolos avoid friction because of only 2 screws instead of 6. with 6 you have much more friction and detuning.

Really? I thought having more screws would be better than having 2 :S

Thanks for the advice

[bobthecow]

My old guitars have no tuning issues whatsoever...

[houseman]

bobthecow, on 20 November 2010 - 10:00 PM, said:

My old guitars have no tuning issues whatsoever...

Well that depends on the mechanics. I mean, a standard Mexico strat doesn't have the quality klusons and vintage mechanics have. i think on a vintage strat it just depends on how good the condition is.
Also, with a 2 point tremolo you can do all these Jeff Beck things.

Check out this Song:
It's nearly completely made out of these 2 point tremolo dives.

[irondethpepper]

I'd personally go for a used American Standard Stratocaster. Make sure you try them out as there's a lot of inconsistencies regarding the quality. You shouldn't have a problem with tuning if your guitar is setup properly and your strings are wound correctly.

[nom_nom]

houseman, on 22 November 2010 - 07:50 PM, said:

bobthecow, on 20 November 2010 - 10:00 PM, said:

My old guitars have no tuning issues whatsoever...

Well that depends on the mechanics. I mean, a standard Mexico strat doesn't have the quality klusons and vintage mechanics have. i think on a vintage strat it just depends on how good the condition is.
Also, with a 2 point tremolo you can do all these Jeff Beck things.

Check out this Song:
It's nearly completely made out of these 2 point tremolo dives.

Cool, I really didn't know that a 2 point tremolo could make that sound; thought it was just some kind of weird thing to cut down on costs (4 screws!! )

irondethpepper, on 26 November 2010 - 02:58 PM, said:

I'd personally go for a used American Standard Stratocaster. Make sure you try them out as there's a lot of inconsistencies regarding the quality. You shouldn't have a problem with tuning if your guitar is setup properly and your strings are wound correctly.

How much would they be? I like the sound of a American Strat but my budget is kinda low, like £600 at the most haha

[mcgraftrock]

in my opinion, the sound between an American and a Mexican, now this could be completely wrong for certain guitars, but for the most part the big difference lies in the weight, feel, and finish, rather than the sound....i have two MIM strats, one is a regular strat from 1999, and the other is road worn...the 1999 strat has a maple neck, the roadworn is rosewood....i spent 300 on the regular and about 900 on the roadworn and i would give it back in a heartbeat...my 1999 plays so much better, it is the best feeling neck i have ever felt, and stays in tune ALWAYS...just go somewhere and play the guitars....dont buy it unless you absolutely have to play it because the neck feels so good, and the sustain is how you want it...