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[The Past Recedes]

Phantom, on Feb 10 2010, 07:47 PM, said:

a beautiful mind is a really good film really shows shcizophrenia well.

I wached the film. I liked it.

[morven]

The Past Recedes, on Feb 19 2010, 01:37 PM, said:

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I'm not much of a thinker, I mostly believe in what I feel is right. I guess I could call it intuition. So my intuition tells me that this world is not all there is. It's not that it isn't real, it's more like... a facade. With something different, beautiful, scary on the other side. For me the reality, this world is real, it's just that that's not all. We cannot see it, but we can feel it - out intuition, our emotions are partly a reflection of that other reality. I guess I could call myself an idealist.
But there's a tricky thing about the facade. It looks different to every one of us. It is real, but our perception of it is somehow distorted. We try to find the truth, but I doubt we'll ever be able to truly understand it. And behind the facade... I feel that everything we do, every moment we live, stays somewhere over there. And in some weird way, in some parallel world every moment is repeated, forever.

As scary and kind of alien it could possibly sound, the idea of an existance like the one you describe is very comforting for me. To believe that there is more than just this world is comforting...for me, at least.

Exactly my point. You know, some days I'm overwhelmed by this idea and it makes me feel very depressed; it happened mostly in the beginning, when I felt it for the first time, it shook me really deeply. But now most of the time I'm feeling okay with it. It is very comforting for me, too.
However, the idea that every moment exists forever is a torture sometimes, when you think of all the mistakes you've made. But to me, it also brings great relief. That it is possible to live with your loved ones forever, even when they are gone.
I suppose you could say this is some kind of defense mechanism, but I don't care. To me what you feel could be more real than what you can explain and prove.

So here are my weird thoughts.

[The Past Recedes]

Is this a question?

[Phantom]

The Past Recedes, on Feb 19 2010, 12:38 PM, said:

Phantom, on Feb 10 2010, 07:47 PM, said:

a beautiful mind is a really good film really shows shcizophrenia well.

I wached the film. I liked it.

glad you enjoyed it

[TehSorso]

morven, on 22 February 2010 - 09:41 PM, said:

The Past Recedes, on Feb 19 2010, 01:37 PM, said:

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I'm not much of a thinker, I mostly believe in what I feel is right. I guess I could call it intuition. So my intuition tells me that this world is not all there is. It's not that it isn't real, it's more like... a facade. With something different, beautiful, scary on the other side. For me the reality, this world is real, it's just that that's not all. We cannot see it, but we can feel it - out intuition, our emotions are partly a reflection of that other reality. I guess I could call myself an idealist.
But there's a tricky thing about the facade. It looks different to every one of us. It is real, but our perception of it is somehow distorted. We try to find the truth, but I doubt we'll ever be able to truly understand it. And behind the facade... I feel that everything we do, every moment we live, stays somewhere over there. And in some weird way, in some parallel world every moment is repeated, forever.

As scary and kind of alien it could possibly sound, the idea of an existance like the one you describe is very comforting for me. To believe that there is more than just this world is comforting...for me, at least.

Exactly my point. You know, some days I'm overwhelmed by this idea and it makes me feel very depressed; it happened mostly in the beginning, when I felt it for the first time, it shook me really deeply. But now most of the time I'm feeling okay with it. It is very comforting for me, too.
However, the idea that every moment exists forever is a torture sometimes, when you think of all the mistakes you've made. But to me, it also brings great relief. That it is possible to live with your loved ones forever, even when they are gone.
I suppose you could say this is some kind of defense mechanism, but I don't care. To me what you feel could be more real than what you can explain and prove.

So here are my weird thoughts.

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This concept of every happening ( as we perceive it ) being repeated over and over again in a different world sounds both right and wrong.

It may be right, if we consider the past, present and future as different worlds. Our memories may be considered repetitions of the events we experienced. Therefore, we have the original event ( happened in the past or present ), we have the memory (happening in the present), and we have the possible future repetitions of it, which may occur in the future ( unless we forget the event, which will pretty much put an end to the whole repeat thing ).

In this case, your statement that you can be close to the beloved even after they passed away sound reasonable. They will always exist in your memory, and in that of everyone that came in contact with them at a certain point in their existence.

It may be wrong, if the concept of world has any other meaning than that above. It would simply sound unreasonable, as it is quite unlikely that there may be a mirror existence for all our present existence and that somehow after we die in this world ( if i may make this assumption from your writing ) we repeat our lives in another. Repetition itself is , in fact, a concept which cannot be perfectly put into practice ever, as it depends on a multitude of factors. For example, i drink this cup of coffee now, at 9:15 am. Tomorrow, if i drink it again, it may be safe to say that i repeat the action, but the weather may be different, my mood may not be the same and my thoughts surely won't be the same. So perfect repetition is unlikely to exist, and the closest to it is memory - if we have a really good one.