Does anyone know of ANY programs that could extract separate master tracks? I want to extract each track from my Blood Sugar Sex Magic CD. I'm well aware that master tracks are out there, and if I have to, I will resort to that. I would feel most comfortable if I was able to extract it myself from the CD with a professional audio program, instead of the supposed tracks individually recorded off of Rock Band. Thanks!
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Getting Master Tracks
Started by JForsblade, Dec 19 2009 04:50 PM
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Posted 19 December 2009 - 07:18 PM
Yeah, I'd like to know as well.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 12:21 PM
Well me too, actually. So that's why I bump this thread.
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Posted 28 February 2010 - 02:45 PM
If I understand you right that you want to extract f.e. the vocal or guitar track from the stereo file (MP3, Wave, etc...) of the song, I have to disappoint you. Thereīs really no way to get seperate tracks from a stereo file. Once mixed, the tracks stick together forever.
Itīs likely impossible like trying to extract the amount of the yellow paint from a bucket of self-mixed brown paint...
Itīs likely impossible like trying to extract the amount of the yellow paint from a bucket of self-mixed brown paint...
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Posted 03 March 2010 - 06:06 AM
THIS POST DOES NOT TELL YOU HOW TO GET THE MASTER TRACKS. Just an FYI.
That's not entirely true. When tracks are mixed, they are "panned" between the left and right stereo channel to provide a feeling of dimensionality (is that even a word?). Vocals are usually dead-center in the recording.
If you take a stereo track and invert the waveform (turn the peaks into troughs and the troughs into peaks in the recording) of one channel, then merge the two together, it eliminates any track which had equal volume at the time you mashed them together. That said, if you adjust the pan properly you can probably eliminate any one track from the recording at a time (the vocals are the easiest since all you have to do is flip a track, the vocals are already centered). However, because of the precision required to completely eliminate the track, it's unlikely you'll manage to for anything but the vocals.
And again, this trick only works for one track in the recording. You won't get the master tracks, but if you're lucky 2-3 instruments are centered too, so maybe you'll nerf the vocals, drums, and rhythm guitar all at once just by inverting the left or right channel and merging the tracks. (You can do this using the free audio editing program "Audacity".)
That's not entirely true. When tracks are mixed, they are "panned" between the left and right stereo channel to provide a feeling of dimensionality (is that even a word?). Vocals are usually dead-center in the recording.
If you take a stereo track and invert the waveform (turn the peaks into troughs and the troughs into peaks in the recording) of one channel, then merge the two together, it eliminates any track which had equal volume at the time you mashed them together. That said, if you adjust the pan properly you can probably eliminate any one track from the recording at a time (the vocals are the easiest since all you have to do is flip a track, the vocals are already centered). However, because of the precision required to completely eliminate the track, it's unlikely you'll manage to for anything but the vocals.
And again, this trick only works for one track in the recording. You won't get the master tracks, but if you're lucky 2-3 instruments are centered too, so maybe you'll nerf the vocals, drums, and rhythm guitar all at once just by inverting the left or right channel and merging the tracks. (You can do this using the free audio editing program "Audacity".)
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 08:04 PM
Yes, thatīs right. Eliminating the vocals for example is not that difficult. I once had a stereo with a karaoke function, which does the same trick with phase inverting. But since most of the records use stereo-reverb on most tracks, especially the vocals, youīll often hear a rest of the vocals.
But you can do nice things with inverting the waveform. I once heard of an anecdote that Placido Domingo or some other famous tenor just couldnīt get motivated to sing into the microphone along with a playback when recording vocals for an album production, because he wouldnīt get the right feeling with headphones on. He wanted to record his voice while listening to the music from the studio-speakers, standing free. But without headphones, the microphone will record the playback, which will sound bad later. So they recorded his voice with playback from the speakers, and later added the same but phase inverted playback - re-recorded in the same room, same volume, but with the Singer standing quietly in the same position as before .. As a result, all the playback crosstalk of the vocal track was eliminated. Donīt know if itīs true...
But since most of the records use stereo-reverb on most tracks, especially the vocals, youīll often hear a rest of the vocals.But you can do nice things with inverting the waveform. I once heard of an anecdote that Placido Domingo or some other famous tenor just couldnīt get motivated to sing into the microphone along with a playback when recording vocals for an album production, because he wouldnīt get the right feeling with headphones on. He wanted to record his voice while listening to the music from the studio-speakers, standing free. But without headphones, the microphone will record the playback, which will sound bad later. So they recorded his voice with playback from the speakers, and later added the same but phase inverted playback - re-recorded in the same room, same volume, but with the Singer standing quietly in the same position as before .. As a result, all the playback crosstalk of the vocal track was eliminated. Donīt know if itīs true...
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Posted 04 March 2010 - 10:08 PM
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Yes, thatīs right. Eliminating the vocals for example is not that difficult. I once had a stereo with a karaoke function, which does the same trick with phase inverting. But since most of the records use stereo-reverb on most tracks, especially the vocals, youīll often hear a rest of the vocals.
But you can do nice things with inverting the waveform. I once heard of an anecdote that Placido Domingo or some other famous tenor just couldnīt get motivated to sing into the microphone along with a playback when recording vocals for an album production, because he wouldnīt get the right feeling with headphones on. He wanted to record his voice while listening to the music from the studio-speakers, standing free. But without headphones, the microphone will record the playback, which will sound bad later. So they recorded his voice with playback from the speakers, and later added the same but phase inverted playback - re-recorded in the same room, same volume, but with the Singer standing quietly in the same position as before .. As a result, all the playback crosstalk of the vocal track was eliminated. Donīt know if itīs true...
But since most of the records use stereo-reverb on most tracks, especially the vocals, youīll often hear a rest of the vocals.But you can do nice things with inverting the waveform. I once heard of an anecdote that Placido Domingo or some other famous tenor just couldnīt get motivated to sing into the microphone along with a playback when recording vocals for an album production, because he wouldnīt get the right feeling with headphones on. He wanted to record his voice while listening to the music from the studio-speakers, standing free. But without headphones, the microphone will record the playback, which will sound bad later. So they recorded his voice with playback from the speakers, and later added the same but phase inverted playback - re-recorded in the same room, same volume, but with the Singer standing quietly in the same position as before .. As a result, all the playback crosstalk of the vocal track was eliminated. Donīt know if itīs true...
Check out the sound technician for the Grateful Dead. Dude was on the ball.
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"Well, it was put to me by "that guy" when I was, like, four. So I went into my parents' record collection and found a rock'n'roll compilation. And when my mom asked if I wanted to move to L.A., I said, "Yeah," because I knew that was where the rock stars were. I was seven. Then when I found punk and listened to the Germs, I started seeing how I was part of this. I remember being out on the baseball field when I was 11, and I felt like such an outsider. Standing there in right field, I started making up an angry punk song in my head, and I went home and wrote, like, 20 songs in a row. I realized it didn't even matter if I knew how to play guitar yet." -John Frusciante
"Well, it was put to me by "that guy" when I was, like, four. So I went into my parents' record collection and found a rock'n'roll compilation. And when my mom asked if I wanted to move to L.A., I said, "Yeah," because I knew that was where the rock stars were. I was seven. Then when I found punk and listened to the Germs, I started seeing how I was part of this. I remember being out on the baseball field when I was 11, and I felt like such an outsider. Standing there in right field, I started making up an angry punk song in my head, and I went home and wrote, like, 20 songs in a row. I realized it didn't even matter if I knew how to play guitar yet." -John Frusciante
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