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[Bobster]

John's 62 strat is very recognizable and far from standard. It would be a great guitar to make signature model out of.

But, I think I read somewhere that Fender wanted to do it, but John refused
I also read in an interview with Dave Lee that he gave a couple of pictures of John strat to some friend of his that wanted to get a copy of JF's guitar and Dave agreed that it would be a great signature model

If anybody can find any of these articles/interviews/whatever the hell they are, it would be great to post them here, if not, just comment on the idea

[fenderfunk14]

i think that the 62 reissue is basically a frusciante custom

other than the road worn aspect of john's strat, its pretty basic

[Bobster]

I know, just like the SRV signature comes brand new without a scratch and is still a signature model. But I was thinking more of a CUSTOM SHOP signature model, the EXACT replica of John's strat, to the smallest details.

I found the interview with Dave Lee:



(here's the LINK to the whole article/interview )

it would be very interesting to see this guitar, but who knows if they actually built it...

[fenderfunk14]

yeah it would be pretty cool. i think id rather have his 57 though :-X

[Bobster]

his 57 is not "that special" if you're going for the looks, Eric Johnson signature 57 would be almost the same thing, and the 57 custom shop relic (not a signature model, just 57 relic) is pretty close to the thing, too.

All John's guitar would look great in a signature model, but I think his 62 has a unique look and would be recognized as his guitar, not as some bloke's guitar that is old as hell if you know what I'm saying

[fenderfunk14]

haha thats a good point. what pickups would they put in the 62 if they did make it? does fender custom shop wind custom voiced pickups? or would they use seymour duncans?

looks like somone has tried in the past

http://www.revelatorguitarworks.com/1962_f...usciante_1.html

http://www.monsterre...custom/john.jpg - by monster relic

http://www.guitarjap...E-118R_RE_L.jpg - by edwards guitars

none of them look right though IMO

[Bobster]

they would either make their own, or put Seymour Duncan antiquity pups.

I've seen all those attempts (and FAILs if you ask me), but I was thinking about a legit Fender guitar, with certificate of authenticity and JF's signature on the headstock would be nice, too

[estress]

The reissue 62 would be the best IMO, some of the sigs with scratches down to a tee look fake and dodgy . let the guitar get its own dings and worn though your time with it rather than by some custom shop guy ,, and i read somewhere that he doesnt play his 57 maple neck any more cos its not vintage...

[Bobster]

there are 2 types of signature guitars. Signature guitars made according to the guitar player and his wishes (something like for my sig guitar I want these pups, this switch, this trem this bit here, this there...) and signature guitars that are made to be exactly the same as the original guitar played by the guy.

I have the 62 AVRI and it is a beautiful guitar, both sound-wise and looks-wise, and it would be the same guitar John's was back in the 1962 (would be, not is, because of the fingerboard, it's not that Brazilian rosewood or indian rosewood or whatever that dark-as-hell rosewood is, but just plane rosewood)
it's not that I don't like it (I love the guitar and I just can't stop playing it), but I think that it would be cool if Fender made Frusciante signature stratocaster... the relic signature, that is

[fenderfunk14]

the 57 isnt vintage?

[Bobster]

I doubt it's not vintage. Those guitars are checked when bought and Dave Lee surely knows a bit about guitars. The first thing you do is remove the neck, and voilà you have the manufacturing date stamp. It's possible that it turned out to be a relic or something, but I doubt it, and I doubt he'd stop playing it just because of that, but who knows...

estress, if you happen to remember where you read it, throw in the info

[fenderfunk14]

im pretty sure its vintage too, so if he did stop playing it i doubt thats the reason. if he has recorded/gigged with the 57 strat, and then learned that it wasnt vintage, why would he stop playing it? its not like it hasnt already proved itself as an awesome guitar.

[Hedegaardo1]

His '57 ['55] strat mapple neck is vintage.. It is just the pickups that have been changed to some Seymour Duncan vintage pickups but I'm not sure which.. It could be the antiquities or even SD custommade vintage pickups.. anyways I'm pretty sure he later got those kind of pickups in his '62 strat since they might be weak. I read it somewhere in an interview.. But even though the experts (beside Dave Lee) thought the guitar was 100% vintage when he bought it but later on he figured out that the pickups wasnt..

[estress]

yeah iIread that the pick ups in the maple strat went not vintage and on closer inspection it was found out .. im looking for the magazine .. I wouldnt just make it up

[Bobster]

I know what you're talking about, but sadly this is the only thing I can find:



if I find the whole thing, I'll post


and I wouldn't count that different pickups would make a guitar non-vintage, those antiquity seymour duncans are made exactly the same, I mean EXACTLY the same like the original vintage pickups, and because the magnetism of the pup they get weaker and weaker, and need to be replaced at some point of their life

EDIT: I've found it ! ! ! xD here's the whole article and THE part is on the last page

Edited by Libero Marconi, 07 December 2009 - 03:31 PM.
EUREKA, I've found it

[Hedegaardo1]

Libero Marconi, on Dec 7 2009, 03:23 PM, said:

I know what you're talking about, but sadly this is the only thing I can find:



if I find the whole thing, I'll post


and I wouldn't count that different pickups would make a guitar non-vintage, those antiquity seymour duncans are made exactly the same, I mean EXACTLY the same like the original vintage pickups, and because the magnetism of the pup they get weaker and weaker, and need to be replaced at some point of their life

EDIT: I've found it ! ! ! xD here's the whole article and THE part is on the last page

Yes, it was exactly that interview I was refering to.. Well it doesn't have to be the Seymour duncan Antiquity pickups .. It can be the Seymour Duncan Customshop vintage pickups... but even if it is the Seymour Duncan Antiquity pickups do you then think it's the Texas hot (Antiquity II)?

[Bobster]

well, I can't go into details because I'm not an expert. But what I can tell you is that Seymour Duncan does great pickups, and even the SSL1 vintage for strat, which is the cheaper version of the vintage pup, is great, I can't even imagine how close to the real thing those other special, antiquity or custom shop pups are... the fact that even guys who are professionals couldn't tell a difference is enough

[estress]

nice one ...

[tfogarty]

Great thread - I got a Fender Custom Shop 60 NOS Strat a bit over a year ago and have started to age it a bit myself. I will post some more pictures today when i get home, for now all I have is the attached iphone pic. Personally, I tried to start some of the wear in the heaviest places forearm rest / pick downstroke 'zones' by removing some of the nitro lacquer in larger areas and then taking it down to the wood in smaller areas, so hopefully after a few more years it will really wear in naturally.

As for pickups, I wasn't super impressed with the Fender CS 60's pickups... So I called Seymour Duncan and ordered a set of custom wound fender vintage strat replacements - http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/cust...for_strat_75_1/ - and asked them to spec it to as close to a 62 strat sound as possible. The sales manager said she'd ask Seymour himself what specs to wind them to, but I have a feeling they didn't (and just used a standard resistance)... I'm pretty impressed with them, but its not 100% accurate (although, I haven't played it through a Jubilee or Major stack).

I can send the specs on pickups / guitar / details on the minor relicing if anyones interested.

I highly recommend a CS Strat - they are incredible to hold & play.

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[fenderfunk14]

tfogarty, on Dec 11 2009, 03:19 PM, said:

Great thread - I got a Fender Custom Shop 60 NOS Strat a bit over a year ago and have started to age it a bit myself. I will post some more pictures today when i get home, for now all I have is the attached iphone pic. Personally, I tried to start some of the wear in the heaviest places forearm rest / pick downstroke 'zones' by removing some of the nitro lacquer in larger areas and then taking it down to the wood in smaller areas, so hopefully after a few more years it will really wear in naturally.

As for pickups, I wasn't super impressed with the Fender CS 60's pickups... So I called Seymour Duncan and ordered a set of custom wound fender vintage strat replacements - http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/cust...for_strat_75_1/ - and asked them to spec it to as close to a 62 strat sound as possible. The sales manager said she'd ask Seymour himself what specs to wind them to, but I have a feeling they didn't (and just used a standard resistance)... I'm pretty impressed with them, but its not 100% accurate (although, I haven't played it through a Jubilee or Major stack).

I can send the specs on pickups / guitar / details on the minor relicing if anyones interested.

I highly recommend a CS Strat - they are incredible to hold & play.

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you started to relic a custom shop? eek! id be scared to