[Heimendinger]

Listening to frusciante has helped improve my style and musicality ten times over. Mainly the left hand funky wah type muting if anyone follows but also on acoustic parts like Breaking the Girl and Desecration Smile. Kurt Cobain also had great muting with his picking hand and really got those real percussive "clacks" on 2 and 4. Can anybody reccomend some other players to listen to for muting techniques?

(Hope this made sense to somebody)

[fenderfunk14]

pretty much any funk guitarist

[Heimendinger]

I have trouble finding new music, I only listen to analog and it takes me an hour in the record store to make a decision especially if im just guessing on an album. Can you reccomend some? Hendrix is obviously a big influence, ya'll know any others who impacted his style? Just lookin to expand my brain.

[fenderfunk14]

some of his other known influences include jeff beck and frank zappa

[hockers]

According to his MySpace page: Red Hot Chili Peppers, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, the Germs, Led Zeppelin, Lou Reed, KISS, Captain Beefheart, David Bowie, Sonic Youth, Fugazi, Depeche Mode, Ornette Coleman, Joy Division, The Clash; these are the only ones on there, though there are obviously others.

[surfsunadam]

Heimendinger, on Jul 18 2009, 05:49 PM, said:

Just lookin to expand my brain.

Stop listening to 'only analog' then, that's the most pretentious, close-minded thing to say.

As to who's stuff you should learn - the guitar parts in Fela Kuti songs feature great muting. I would also recommend both the rythm and lead parts off Santana, eg the albums Santana and Abraxas.

And it never hurts to learn to the play ramones at full speed.

One more thing about your analog only rule. I then guess you only listen to records. Working out guitar parts by ear I find extremely difficult on record, because you can't keep going back over the same spot to really work out whats happening. Picking up the needle and dropping it back down all the time ruins your vinyl and you cant tell where you're at in the song anyway. Digital tools like being able to scroll, pause, rewind and loop can really help your guitar playing. (Unless your listening to cassette, but thats lower quality than both.)

[surfsunadam]

Double post .. sorry

[Heimendinger]

Keep your assumptions to yourself, Adam.
I like cassettes. My car only has a cassette deck. I like being able to walk into a record store and buy 10 albums on cassette for $15. I like listening to a record knowing that the sound hasn't been broken into a million little pieces and put back together. I don't mind lifting the needle a few times, thanks for explaining pause and rewind to me. I DON'T like supporting a music industry that I hate by buying overcharged music online or paying for the plastic in a CD case. Thank you everybody else for your help.

Mean people suck.

[surfsunadam]

Heimendinger, on Jul 19 2009, 12:40 AM, said:

Keep your assumptions to yourself, Adam.
I like cassettes. My car only has a cassette deck. I like being able to walk into a record store and buy 10 albums on cassette for $15. I like listening to a record knowing that the sound hasn't been broken into a million little pieces and put back together. I don't mind lifting the needle a few times, thanks for explaining pause and rewind to me. I DON'T like supporting a music industry that I hate by buying overcharged music online or paying for the plastic in a CD case. Thank you everybody else for your help.

Mean people suck.

So it's not a fidelity thing then? You just don't like to support the music industry? Then what's wrong with second hand CDs? Or even downloading stuff illegally in 320kbps MP3 for free? Surely you would agree a 320kbps MP3 is better quality than a cassette. It's fine you listen to cassettes cuz thats what you have in your car ... but to blanket rule and say 'only analog' is silly. How do you hear new bands who record digitally, or do you refuse to listen?

Sorry about the attack in my previous post.

[horriblemashup]

listen to minutemen. "double nickels on the dime" is a masterpiece. d boon was really into funk so he combined that with punkrock elements and its totally insane, theres lots of muting going on. theres no wah, but it doesn't matter

you could also just listen to any kind of reggae really, because that percussive muting is all over those records

surfsunadam, on Jul 19 2009, 07:22 AM, said:

And it never hurts to learn to the play ramones at full speed.

as crazy as it may seem to some, this is probably some of the best advice regarding guitar playing

[Heimendinger]

I just prefer tape noise and vinyl fuzz and I hear new bands through local live music. Just preference. I still pick up the used CD every now and then too, I understand how what I wrote seemed close-minded sorry.
Illegally downloading music is just low.

Haven't heard the Ramones except the rare song on the radio, I'm real inclined to check them out now thanks ya'll.

[horriblemashup]

music is music, it doesn't matter how you get it

arguments over this kind of shit is boring

[harrz]

Heimendinger, on Jul 19 2009, 04:05 AM, said:

I just prefer tape noise and vinyl fuzz and I hear new bands through local live music. Just preference. I still pick up the used CD every now and then too, I understand how what I wrote seemed close-minded sorry.

it still seems incredibly close minded and frankly rather stupid... it's about music, not the medium on which it's presented on... just because it's been broken apart in a million little pieces doesn't mean it has lost its ability to make people feel good, because if it had, the digital medium wouldn't have prevailed over analog in the way it has...

don't get me wrong i'm also a big analog fan and to me there's nothing greater than a analog recorded, analog mixed and well mastered record... but at the end of the day it's all about the music though

[Heimendinger]

I can't believe how judgemental ya'll are being over this, I've had the same stereo/turntable/cassette deck since I was a little kid and haven't felt the need to buy a CD player or IPOD, why does it matter to you if I don't support certain industries. Of course its about the music, all I'm asking for is reccomendations to new music. Wierd.

[Sanguis]

I don't know if this is useful, but this is me playing Can't Stop. So alot of muting: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ydhdwfbZ6EQ
just watch all of it and watch my other videos too xD

[jahajjah]

I have also grown as a guitar player from listening to John. I've picked up lots of techniques and ideas that he probably got from a variety of other players.