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#1 pisa

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 10:57 PM

Hi,

I'm recording live music shows on SD video and have two cameras to do it with.

Unfortunately the one with the 16 bit recording ability has the better lenses and I want to use it for my free style , in front of stage stuff.

I have the options of hooking up to the pa's, but the second camera has only 12 bit recording. I was wondering if I would get better results , if I record straight onto the pc? I have audacity on there , and now need to know what else I would need to hook up?

Thanks for any advice,
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 02:05 AM

i'm not sure if i understood everything correctly but my suggestion is that you record the audio and video separatly.
you record the music straight out of the live soundboard during the show and film at the same time but you don't have to record any audio with the cameras.
afterwards you just sync the audio with video while editing it in a computer.
as i said, i'm not sure if i understood you correctly so i'm sorry if my answer isn't relevant at all.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 03:35 AM

Yeah, you could definatly take the stereo send from the mixing desk into your PC.

You would need a good 2-channel external sound card like the M-audio transit USB interface http://www.zzounds.c...tem--MDOTRANSIT .Behringer make a similar product.

Then you will need the right cable, probably a Y-cable that goes from two 1/4" jacks to a single stereo 1/8" jack, this will link the mixing desk to the external sound card.

DVD audio can support 24-bit and 96kHz audio, so you should record to that with audacity.

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:09 AM

the human ear cant hear beyond a certain frequency range. i wouldn't recommend recording in 24 bit for a live gig since everything is coming in all at once and the overall sound is going to be determined more by the person running the board than the way the computer interpolates the information.

i also would recommend using the onboard camera mics and adjusting the audio levels on them. you can often get a good mix from different sources to beef it up. and it makes syncing up the multiple audio sources easier as well when you analyze the wave form pattern.

but here's something you may wanna think about.

program called wirecast let's you connect multiple cameras together and record live streams at once. you can record the show to tape like normal but you can also have someone manning the computer to make live cuts. its essentially like editing live television. it's actually good for creating rough cuts which you can refine once you get the tape assets digitized.

have fun!

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 11:53 PM

Thanks for the tips,

I just did the first recording this weekend: stereo rca's from the pa going into the computer. And even though it doesn't sound great in parts, feedback from guitar wasn't regulated :worried: ,
but heaps better, or rather different from the camera audio.

Still learning, and as I'm primarily a filmer/photographer, there's a limit to what my brain can take in!

But it certainly has been a very positive experience, especially finding EVERYONE at the gig helpful, and with good advice.

Now I just have to process and edit the 4 hours of dv tape and add the audio .

There goes a month a sundays. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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