Dani California's in C.
But the solo is in F.
Does John do that alot?
Solo in the scale of the fourth degree of the chord progression's home key?
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Started by clr, Mar 07 2009 07:55 PM
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 08:16 PM
DaniCali is in A
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 08:17 PM
Dani California is actually in A minor (solo is indeed in F major).
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 08:22 PM
If I'm not mistakin', the chorus is in F and the solo goes on to the melody of the chorus... so it is in tune with the song
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 12:30 AM
Most of the song is in A minor, and it ends in D minor. I am pretty sure the solo is in D minor, but there might be parts that sound like F major because that is the relative major of D minor (same key signature).
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 12:36 AM
Yep, its in A minor. All the notes in the solo alaso fit the A minor scale although it can be argued that its in fmajor or dminor because of how its phrased.
I would go for Dminor, as he seems to outline the notes of the d chord in the solo more than any other chord; but again the entire solo is part of the Aminor scale used in the verses.
I would go for Dminor, as he seems to outline the notes of the d chord in the solo more than any other chord; but again the entire solo is part of the Aminor scale used in the verses.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 03:24 AM
It's a switch between the a minor, main key (du chanson) &
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d minor dorian mode ( as stated; thru emphasizing dorian "centre", the hook drives it down into the core of the earth ). As u probably already know, if not ; easy find.
- edited opinion see other post below on this
"will to death" also has this mode. easy way to do it is go from dorian to mixolydian ( in a- : d minor to g major).
He uses modes & alternating between relative major/minors in his , after the first two albums, solo works. minor to dorian is deceptive as one can remain soloing in a minor over d minor dorian it draws ( "the ear") towards the a minor-key centre (which is in the fifth of d minor, a classic lead relation to fundamental bass of chord in assical music).
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ignore following part -
d minor dorian mode ( as stated; thru emphasizing dorian "centre", the hook drives it down into the core of the earth ). As u probably already know, if not ; easy find.
- edited opinion see other post below on this
"will to death" also has this mode. easy way to do it is go from dorian to mixolydian ( in a- : d minor to g major).
He uses modes & alternating between relative major/minors in his , after the first two albums, solo works. minor to dorian is deceptive as one can remain soloing in a minor over d minor dorian it draws ( "the ear") towards the a minor-key centre (which is in the fifth of d minor, a classic lead relation to fundamental bass of chord in assical music).
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 02:04 AM
yehan.jehan, on Mar 7 2009, 03:16 PM, said:
DaniCali is in A
A minor. Which is C.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:09 AM
Except that the way it's played the song emphasazes the a minor, not the c major. Technically could be either, but mood-wise it's a minor.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:14 AM
"Major vs Parallel minor" is an old old argument. True, sometimes it's really hard to realize what's going on and you just go with "Am \ C" or "D#m \ F#". But it doesn't mean that you can take any song and feel free to choose the key you want. Determining the key may not be the exact science okay, but sometimes it's clear as hell, so you don't need to make a rocket science out of it. It's A minor.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:26 AM
But if you still have doubts, listen to the song at 2:45-3:05. There you go: Am G Dm, and at "gone too fast" you finally get E. Feel the tension? It sounds that epic because E is a dominant. Do the math, here is your desired harmonical proof.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:48 PM
oh, now that you've already mentioned the GONE TOO FAST part, which chords are there...??? The last emphasized one really confuses me 
I can't really tell which chord is that...? An E something??? Anybody help???
I can't really tell which chord is that...? An E something??? Anybody help???
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 06:38 PM
I saw that video some time ago, but I still couldn't figure out that last chord...
I posted a comment with what I think he plays but he doesn't seem to stretch his hand that much...
e-------10
b-------12
g-------13
d-------14
a--------X
E--------0
I posted a comment with what I think he plays but he doesn't seem to stretch his hand that much...
e-------10
b-------12
g-------13
d-------14
a--------X
E--------0
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 07:52 PM
I think you should keep it simple, don't let John's enthusiasm fool you. I think it's as simple as Dm, then your garden-variety diminished 089797 then you just go down a minor third with it like he says and make it 0BCAC(A) (I'm not sure whether the first string rings or not). I think that with careful strumming you get the right progression.
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Posted 09 March 2009 - 09:19 PM
"gone to fast"-chord_name: E 7 9b
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 05:10 PM
No.
Gone too fast:
Dm Edim Gdim
also known as:
And the chorus is going in F major:
F5 (F), D5 (D), C5 (Cm), G5 (G),
and, because the chorus-chords in doing the solo as well, the solo goes in F major, and the parallell key is called Dm, so that's why John plays the D minor pentatonic over it.
Gone too fast:
Dm Edim Gdim
also known as:
Edim E -6-- B -8-- G -6-- D -8-- A -7-- E -X--For Gdim, move the position up so you finger on the A-string is hitting the G-note (fret 10).
And the chorus is going in F major:
F5 (F), D5 (D), C5 (Cm), G5 (G),
and, because the chorus-chords in doing the solo as well, the solo goes in F major, and the parallell key is called Dm, so that's why John plays the D minor pentatonic over it.
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 05:25 PM
well after gone too fast (so, : the bassdrone section) i meant
it's major e 7 gb ; the diminished chords go over a constant (pedal) e bas making it that chord
the dim chords are than taken from a circle of consecutive minors (just like the chord itself)
, being:
g# dim b dim d dim f dim
all over e pedal bass
- on youtube you can see which chords he chooses & , he hits the e string (along with bassline)
i concede the chorus is in F parallel (as the vocals emphasize) /was not taking that into account
it's major e 7 gb ; the diminished chords go over a constant (pedal) e bas making it that chord
the dim chords are than taken from a circle of consecutive minors (just like the chord itself)
, being:
g# dim b dim d dim f dim
all over e pedal bass
- on youtube you can see which chords he chooses & , he hits the e string (along with bassline)
i concede the chorus is in F parallel (as the vocals emphasize) /was not taking that into account
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Posted 10 March 2009 - 05:50 PM
dagge, on Mar 10 2009, 09:10 PM, said:
Edim E -6-- B -8-- G -6-- D -8-- A -7-- E -X--
And the chorus is going in F major:
F5 (F), D5 (D), C5 (Cm), G5 (G),
The chorus is F5, C5, D5, G5, you misplaced chords. And the Edim chord is wrong too. It should be one fret higher: watch the video, he obviously places his first finger on the seventh (dotted fret). And there's certainly E in the bass.
I mean, come on, it's okay to have different theories on what he plays because the video has shitty youtube quality of sound and video, but let's not bring up things that are obviously wrong.
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