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[Iva]

...and what if we achieve our happiness by being useful to this world and other people?

[MrP]

lisa_malvin, on Dec 10 2008, 06:32 PM, said:

I'm not sure avoidance is necessarily the wrong path to take.

I'm sure avoidance has its place. In the sense I meant and in my experience- underlying problems interfer in my life in a negative way. I attempted to busy myself or distract or use substances to ease such problems. This avoidance didn't work as the problem remained and still caused disease regardless of what I did to avoid it. Fear held me back from looking inward. It was all about fear for me. Addressing such issues has relieved me from a lot of mental anguish. Embracing rather than avoiding has worked best for me. I can't see avoidance in the long run being a healthy way to cope.

But as said earlier- each of us is uniquely different and we all find our ways of coping.

[Norwegianguy]

Iva, on Dec 10 2008, 06:42 PM, said:

...and what if we achieve our happiness by being useful to this world and other people?

Well, it shouldn't be the only thing which makes a person happy, but if it makes you happy then do it. The feeling of having helped a person in a situation where you have made a difference certainly makes me happy. A problem is that sometimes people try too help people so much that they forget to help and take care of themselves, and that will cause a breakdown at a point.

God, i can't think clearly at all. I've given to much thought about this and now my thought feels like a chaos... Sorry if what I've said have came out wrong. I'm going to go and get the focus of my thoughts on something else now

[Tigara]

I am fascinated by this thread, and where it has gone. I am (like always) concerned for my fellow Brothers and Sisters, and since I have been around the block a few times so to speak, I would like to humbly share something’s that I have come to understand. But first I would like to tell you a bit about myself so you can come to understand how I got this way.

I came from a long line of addicts and alcoholics. As a teen watching my much older siblings drink and use, as well as my parents drinking and pop pills, I went the other way, not being addicted to substances myself, but being what has been coined, co-depended, or what I would call now, simply irresponsible for myself, neglecting myself. I tried every single way to control everything in my life (my addicts ect) , in my environments, (except myself) over and over but I could never change them or make them stop. I was taking care of everyone but me, being the pleaser, the good girl, but I was not enjoying my life, not using my self to my fullest, not being happy with myself.
( I later learned that only thing I truly have any hope of controlling is myself, and even controlling myself is more then a full time job)

Nothing ever seemed to go my way, bad things happened all the time, the drama was rampant, yes it could be called exciting, entertaining, violent, what ever. What it really was, was a trick for me to not be responsible for my own life and happiness. I was to busy, to tired, to tangled in life to take care of me. I was a great victim of life, my circumstances where beyond my control. (So I thought). I was like a little black cloud, that everyone lamented was coming their way. The only people who tolerated me, were others like me, or addicts

I hated the world, I only saw the bad, the ugly, the hurt, I courted Satan, in the real sense of the word. I was an original Goth (this was early 80’s), a Princess of Death and Despair. The more I cultivated this negativity, the more it grew and grew.

After attempted suicides and running away from home, I had what some if would call a Providence moment, some would call it an epiphany, some a miracle. I call it simply that I was able to see myself truly for the first time my inner essence. I saw I was living outside of myself, and missing was really going on in me. By me not being the best I could (and examining what I could do to be the best I could be, by thinking of me) I was not even able to help all the people I loved the most.

( I ironic how that when I stopped taking take of drunks, and addicts and doing what I wanted, by taking care of my “garbage” the people around me started taking care of themselves, and healing and recovering).

I had met a boy (as I was still all of 16) who had been severely attracted to me and had the guts to talk to me. He changed my life for ever, he did the simple thing of teaching me a Law, similar to the Law of Gravity. He saw my pain and confusion and misery and sickness and wondered why such a beautiful girl would want to be this way. “Want to be this way.” That is what he said, I was choosing my path, and even though I didn’t know there were other choices, other paths that by logic and reason their had to be always other choices to make.

What he taught to me is an ancient maxim, and in this polarized world, it is manifested as the Law of Attraction, or the Law of Magnetism, or simply like attracts like. As Thoth taught “As Above So Below, As Within, So Without” and modern science verifies this ancient teaching as true. The thoughts feelings and energy patterns that we create bring into our lives similar things. (yes, I can even get into how severe acts of violence and cruelty are vibrational encoded into dna, and manifest even if the person who goes through them says “I didn’t ask for it, I didn’t want it, I did nothing to attract this…, as horrible as it may sound, most instances are attracted).

If you are one particular way, it is logical that you can be another way, the opposite, or even some balanced middle ground (ideally). Being in a polarized world, we are taught to see/feel things as good or bad, right or wrong, but it isn’t that way at all, things are simply things, and acceptance of that fact is a hurdle for many, but one worth jumping.

Physics teaches us that all things in the universe are forms of energy, and energy never ceases, it simply changes form. Energy is frequency of vibration, that all things and even void, are vibrational, and that by changing the vibrational frequency of a thing, you can change what it is. Now what we have learned is that sometimes energy travels in waves, and sometimes it is particles, and that by simply observing something you can change the way it is, (either a wave or a particle). By meditation you are observing your thoughts and feelings and are changing them!

The Movie The Secret, a few years ago, tried to relay this idea (Attraction) to the masses but left out a lot of important tools, to bad.

The movie “What the Bleep do we know” also tried to show the science behind our being.

Thoughts are really nothing more then electrical impulses in the brain, where over time we have formed relationships between inputs. (ie thoughts of parents may be connected to thoughts of control, or thoughts of cookies may be liked to thoughts of milk) and feelings are hormones, and enzymes secreted by your body in response to these electronic impulses.

In psychiatry following trains of thought is important so one can observe what connections one has formed, and how these connections are either benefiting the body and creating harmony, or are negatively acting on the body (creating to many hormones that overload the body) and creating disharmony. Addicts enjoy the chemical rushes produced by drugs, but one can be addicted to thoughts, feelings, foods, sex, just about any external stimulus, and if this stimulus gets obsessive or compulsive disharmony will result, and disease (dis-ease, not being at ease) will take control of your body.

In this day and age, we are unfortunately bombarded with outside influences that sway this natural process of electronic impulse and chemical secretions. Our foods, our electronics, pollution, all these external things get into our bodies and effect our biology. They lower your vibrational pattern. When you are sad, not only do you feel “down” but your vibrational pattern is down, and when you feel happy, and are “up” your vibrational pattern is up.

I am a holistic healer, a medicine woman. I help people overcome illnesses (disharmony) by many ways that cannot be “proven” or duplicated, but these people are healed. How does this happen? Often times by simple tools of rethinking, of teaching coping skills in stead of reacting to emotions, using the mind and consciousness, and the placebo effect to allow people to heal them selves. Most of the time after examining diet and social issues, simple changes manifest dramatic healing. The body, (and mind) was created to be whole, and strong, and healthy, and happy in this state. When we create imbalances, or are subjected to a “thing” (ie virus) that cause imbalances, our body wants to regain its equilibrium, it wants to be back in harmony with itself.

Thoughts are things, you become what you think because your biology is manifest from your beliefs. Microbiologist Bruce Lipton has an excellent book called the Biology of Beliefs where he has shown how cells are radically changed simply by changing thoughts, vibrational patterns.

Music is used in healing for this very reason, by listening to certain cords, overtones, and harmonies, you are actually influencing your being on a cellular level.

You always have time for your thoughts and your feelings by the way. No matter what you are doing, being, they are always there in the background, the thoughts of negativity, sadness, overwhelmed ness (?is that a word?) they are there. You hear and see and experience so much in your environment, and you implant beliefs into your being.

I live a life now full of hope and joy and love. I make choices in my life that enhance my being, and by me watching myself, watching my thoughts (which was extremely hard to begin with, but like riding a bike, or playing guitar, get easier over time) and doing things that bring me that feeling of happiness in my gut (always follow your gut feelings!) I live a magickal life that overflows with abundance in all areas, and you can too. I have so many miracles in my life, little things that show how life is all interconnected and I am a part of something bigger then just me. That is how in the occult spells are woven, and in religion miracles happen. Belief. You are what you think.

When I was born, my maternal grandmother saw me, and said "look at the little LoveDove"
John has been noted as saying Love is the Law, and this is what is meant by that.

Try it.
Thanks for listening
Sharing is fun.

[Norwegianguy]

Wow! That was an interesting and great post Tigara. It really shows how important it is to take good care and help oneself (is that a word?). I'm glad you found a way to heal yourself =) I would comment on your post but it's so long and filled up with so many different things, so I won't. If I made a post it wouldn't be about disagreeing anyways.. Thanks for sharing