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[MAlovesmusic]

why would it be bad for him to want people to make up their own mind what the songs are about with no other influences?

If the music is strong enough, and speaks for itself, then I will still enjoy it. It would be cool for him to talk about where the inspiration came from, but only if he wants to.

I am a big Smashing Pumpkins fan but I was very dissapointed when the album Machina came out. It's a great album if you listen to it for yourself, but the storyline Billy made up and all the press around it made it a joke and pretty much ruined it for a lot of people.

I think some people need the press and celebrity around them - as much as I love Billy I think he's one of those, he needs the fame and validation. I think he thought some made up story could be cool like Ziggy Stardust or something, but not everyone is cut out to be David Bowie.

I don't think John is one of those people who seeks celebrity. So if there's stuff he wants to keep personal or whatever, he doesn't feel the need to apologize about that or make up some fake persona. That's not necessarily a bad thing!

[Songofthunder]

L633, on Nov 10 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

in reply to your email. IM OLD GREEGGGG!!!

Off topic BUT...as in The Mighty Boosh?!?!? That show's fantastic.

[L633]

Songofthunder, on Nov 10 2008, 09:13 PM, said:

L633, on Nov 10 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

in reply to your email. IM OLD GREEGGGG!!!

Off topic BUT...as in The Mighty Boosh?!?!? That show's fantastic.

ol greggg, he's one fishy bastard...not you naan bread!

the music, the weirdness, the moon...i love it! i like "the priest and the beast", cause rudi looks like a cross between omar and cedric from the francis the mute days, and when he says "i am searching for they nneeww sound" and then does that cheesy grin with the moustach, its so funny aahhahaha im gonna watch it now...the best show ever...

anyway back on topic, i think these 2 new interviews we are about to see will answer quite a few questions about the new album, and anyway its only 2 months now...which isnt very long. maybe there will be more interviews etc which will explain the album in more detail before its released...

[MrFrooshontay]

On one hand I don't mind him wanting people to make their own minds up about the album - many people are blind sheep who will never think for themselves - but for me, it just adds to what i CAN take from the songs. so i hope he does give some specifics at some point.

i hope if/when he talks about it, he discusses what musical devices were employed. the mention today of New Dimension Singers and Sonus Quartet is intriguing. If Curtains is any indicator, i think he could have an amazing classically influenced record on the horizon and that is a great thing.

[MrP]

Supersonic Squirrel, on Nov 7 2008, 11:35 AM, said:

This monk thing is scary, as well as the no-influence thing. I seriously wonder what that is about.

And I'm looking forward to the rest.

John has no intention of becoming a monk- that was the bottom line our conversation. Finding a spiritual life and coping with life without shutting himself away from things by living in a monastary is the way to go.

[Iva]

Oh, you're the interviewer? Pleased to meet you, welcome.

And now it makes more sense. I guess it's hard to guess things without the whole piece of text being there.

[RedHotJSC_87]

MrP, on Nov 13 2008, 09:32 AM, said:

Supersonic Squirrel, on Nov 7 2008, 11:35 AM, said:

This monk thing is scary, as well as the no-influence thing. I seriously wonder what that is about.

And I'm looking forward to the rest.

John has no intention of becoming a monk- that was the bottom line our conversation. Finding a spiritual life and coping with life without shutting himself away from things by living in a monastary is the way to go.

so when are you going to release the entire interview???

[Mr. Maniac]

RedHotJSC_87, on Nov 13 2008, 08:18 PM, said:

MrP, on Nov 13 2008, 09:32 AM, said:

Supersonic Squirrel, on Nov 7 2008, 11:35 AM, said:

This monk thing is scary, as well as the no-influence thing. I seriously wonder what that is about.

And I'm looking forward to the rest.

John has no intention of becoming a monk- that was the bottom line our conversation. Finding a spiritual life and coping with life without shutting himself away from things by living in a monastary is the way to go.

so when are you going to release the entire interview???

he said in another forum that before christmas

[RedHotJSC_87]

Awesome....thanks Mr. Maniac

[Tigara]

I maybe way off here, but in the fields of mediumship, channeling and divination it is believed that we can recieve intelligence by observing, listening and learning about signs, portents, and omens that occur in the world. As a long time occultist I have personally used music as a means of finding deeper meaning and guidance in my life, and have taught others to do so. One of my new favorite methods in using my ipod. I have almost 6000 songs, many I have never heard. When I am looking to use music as my medium of communication with the astral I say a short prayer and shuffle the songs, the Universe in its infinite wisdom selects the songs that I need to hear to find my answers.
This is a new thing, but many spiritual people I know use methods like this, and I wouldnt doubt if John enjoys letting the Cosmos pick his songs for the day, or moment. It can be very enlightening and fun
Veronica

[MrP]

Tigara, on Nov 15 2008, 10:51 PM, said:

I maybe way off here, but in the fields of mediumship, channeling and divination it is believed that we can recieve intelligence by observing, listening and learning about signs, portents, and omens that occur in the world. As a long time occultist I have personally used music as a means of finding deeper meaning and guidance in my life, and have taught others to do so. One of my new favorite methods in using my ipod. I have almost 6000 songs, many I have never heard. When I am looking to use music as my medium of communication with the astral I say a short prayer and shuffle the songs, the Universe in its infinite wisdom selects the songs that I need to hear to find my answers.
This is a new thing, but many spiritual people I know use methods like this, and I wouldnt doubt if John enjoys letting the Cosmos pick his songs for the day, or moment. It can be very enlightening and fun
Veronica

This is very interesting, and was what I was talking with John about. I have very similar views to your on this. The morning I interviewed John, I switched on my iPod and straight away had 4 John Frusciante songs in a row come on when it was on the shuffle function. This never happens and at most I've had 2 songs from the same artist come in in a row. It was pretty freaky, then after those 4 songs, a Fugazi song came o- and John started talking about Fugazi in the first answer he gave. He then said Ian from Fugazi was coming to his house the following day!

From my understanding of what John was saying to me- he does dig the cosmos picking his songs. He said something along the lines of: 'You get what you need'. I will be printing this section of the interview at some point.

[Iva]

That sounds totally cool! I always wanted to know if he still hangs with Ian (the world's most amazing role model, ever...I mean, he invented the best way of living on Earth!) and I'm really pleased to hear that he does! Thanks for coming back to tell us more.

Oh, and welcome to Veronica! That happens to be my favourite name, I always wanted to name my first child Veronika, if I ever end up having one.

[Tigara]

"Oh, and welcome to Veronica! That happens to be my favourite name, I always wanted to name my first child Veronika, if I ever end up having one. "


Thank you for the warm welcome Iva, I am very happy to be hear, you have a wonderful site and are doing a great service to to the world of music. I have only recently learned of John (in the last 1.5 years) even though my sister has been in L.A. being an active "Chilihead" since the get go.

His interests in the astral, spiritual and occult ( as well as his healing talents) and how he uses music (or the music uses him) for expression are fascinating from my occult training.
I am very interested in using music to heal not only individuals but the collective.

Love is the Law
Veronica

[Tigara]

MrP, on Nov 16 2008, 05:37 PM, said:

Tigara, on Nov 15 2008, 10:51 PM, said:

I maybe way off here, but in the fields of mediumship, channeling and divination it is believed that we can recieve intelligence by observing, listening and learning about signs, portents, and omens that occur in the world. As a long time occultist I have personally used music as a means of finding deeper meaning and guidance in my life, and have taught others to do so. One of my new favorite methods in using my ipod. I have almost 6000 songs, many I have never heard. When I am looking to use music as my medium of communication with the astral I say a short prayer and shuffle the songs, the Universe in its infinite wisdom selects the songs that I need to hear to find my answers.
This is a new thing, but many spiritual people I know use methods like this, and I wouldnt doubt if John enjoys letting the Cosmos pick his songs for the day, or moment. It can be very enlightening and fun
Veronica

This is very interesting, and was what I was talking with John about. I have very similar views to your on this. The morning I interviewed John, I switched on my iPod and straight away had 4 John Frusciante songs in a row come on when it was on the shuffle function. This never happens and at most I've had 2 songs from the same artist come in in a row. It was pretty freaky, then after those 4 songs, a Fugazi song came o- and John started talking about Fugazi in the first answer he gave. He then said Ian from Fugazi was coming to his house the following day!

From my understanding of what John was saying to me- he does dig the cosmos picking his songs. He said something along the lines of: 'You get what you need'. I will be printing this section of the interview at some point.

I love listening to the Cosmos talk.

The nice thing about the suffle, is that it consistantly draws from the source, so you can get a limitless combination of possibliities. I once, a while back got the song Landslide, by Fleetwood Mac, from the Dance lp come to me 2 times, back to back.

We do always get what what we need, thats for sure. You say that you will be printing this section soon, does that imply you are not including it in your other article? I am very interested in reading what others say about it.

Love is the Law
Veronica

[MrP]

Tigara, on Nov 17 2008, 05:31 PM, said:

We do always get what what we need, thats for sure. You say that you will be printing this section soon, does that imply you are not including it in your other article? I am very interested in reading what others say about it.

Love is the Law
Veronica

The final edit is not yet done, and so I'm not sure whether it will be in there or not. It may well be, if not it will be made available for fans to read.

[simplexify]

MrP, on Nov 17 2008, 05:56 PM, said:

The final edit is not yet done, and so I'm not sure whether it will be in there or not. It may well be, if not it will be made available for fans to read.

You will be doing a great service to all the Frusciante fans out there. Thank you soo much!

Also, as Tigara pointed out, I love listening to this cosmos talk. If anyone of you is interested in it, too, I recommend reading about the intention-manifestation model.

Stay positive.

[liverpool14]

I agree that when your mp3's or Ipods are on shuffle your given the songs you need to heal yourself in times of hardship, but i think that results due to the power of the human mind and body, i think we're more powerful than we realise in effecting our surroundings in a wonderful, astral way.

Although I'm no expert on the matter therefore I could quite easily be wrong so I apologise to any who happen to know what I wrote was crap
:-)

[Wackhead]

This is probably not the right place to post this, as it is completely off topic, but it's connected to the discussion above.

So; you've been talking about how your ipod shuffles your songs just the right way, and sometimes things are connected in a freakish way. Well, I have a theory I want to share with you, but first let me ask you this:
Isn't every single thing happening connected to the other? How would life work without connections? How about the unbreakable laws of existence?
To every action there's a reaction: I don't study, I get a bad grade. I don't study, get a good grade, but fail the final exam.
Ok, maybe I went a bit too far right now, but I just wanted you to see that everything is as it should be. We follow laws, but we don't recognize our fanatic devotion to them.
Now for my theory:

I'd like to tell you a short story, most of us (I'm sure) have experienced.
"A fly just got caught in a spider-web. I want to save it, but my father tells me not to play god."
"I object: It is impossible."

I came up with the idea that fate is also a law. We follow it. The fact that I'm writing this right now or leavin g this mistake here and listening to Bob Dylan while doing it has already been planed for me. Every single little tiniest thing I do. Now I'm an atheist, and a skeptic by nature, and there would be no way to convince me (without proofs, of course) that the one composing my life is god. (right here I could start a whole new topic, but I'm not going to)

So; I was thinking. How could this ever be possible to understand scientifically?
The answer was lying in my cells. It was a DNA strand.

Am I an albumen and how I'm going to be put together; is it written in a DNA strand of some sort?

I saved the fly. I didn't change it's fate.
I couldn't.


*whoosh* that was....long. I'd like to apologize for the extreme off-topic-ness. I should forbid myself from discussing this on, even tho I would enjoy it.

[simplexify]

also, i am curious about what john has to say about meditation and monk life... i'm getting into meditation more n more

[MrP]

RedHotJSC_87, on Nov 13 2008, 09:18 PM, said:

so when are you going to release the entire interview???

Part one should be up this week. It's been sent to the website guy.

John sent me some handwritten lyrics for 2 songs from 'The Empyrean' (the Japanese bonus tracks) which will also be displayed on the site. This is to highlight the importance of writing down thoughts and feelings as lyrics, poems, etc... to promote mental health well-being.

Keep checking here:

http://www.hillingdonmind.org.uk/